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Title: Nominees '08
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Essyne - January 12, 2008 01:23 AM (GMT)
I'd like to know who everyone is thinking for their party and why...

Just curious!

P.S. --- pleeeaaaaasssseeeee don't say Hillary :P

[R@v3N] - January 12, 2008 04:25 AM (GMT)
I vote for me. :) I mean, we all know it's inevitable anyway. Me, Queen of the World. I would make it a fair world, with peace. "If I could do one thing for mankind, it would be to have world peace." You could be right hand man. Wanna be my right hand man?

lol, no I'm just kidding. Seriously though, I don't agree with many of the things that any of the candidates have to say or do. I think it's just a competition to see whose so-called "bracket" will win the white house. Majority or Minority? What do you think?

ahipapi09 - January 12, 2008 06:43 AM (GMT)
:ph43r: i like huckabee because he doesn't want jews to work

Cloaked - January 13, 2008 03:24 AM (GMT)
I'm pulling for Obama for many reasons such as likened views, but one thing I believe about him is that he is sincere. Or at least more than the other candidates. We have too long been fed bullshit and distractions, and I feel Obama is one who would stick much more closely to truth. Also, seeing that I am quite unhappy with the current state of...well, most things, I would like to see Obama in office because I think he will do the most as far as changing what is now.

I in no way support Hillary. I do not base this necessarily on her views but because I feel she will be more towards the politico spectrum and not many things would change. She seems too much like a "politician's politician." We will have to see if Obama truly is the man I hope he is, unless he does not win.

Essyne - January 13, 2008 03:26 AM (GMT)
Eh... aside from his "camera-prescence," what about his platforms?

Cloaked - January 13, 2008 03:36 AM (GMT)
I agree with a great deal of them. One platform I am not a huge fan of is his advocacy of immediate withdrawal from Iraq. While I would LOVE to pull out of there as soon as possible, and I think we went about everything involving Saddam the wrong way, it is too late now. I'm not a "stay the course" kind of guy, but immediate withdrawal will only make things worse. Perhaps one solution would be to STOP alienating the rest of the world and getting a significant amount of foreign support.

Edit (I edit a lot, no?):
Much of what I feel as far as the sincerity goes is beyond his camera-presence alone. I also find it in his platforms and overall beliefs.

Essyne - January 13, 2008 03:50 AM (GMT)
I really don't see anyone supporting us when WE can't even support OURSELVES.

(sidenote - because I'm one who openly flaunts her ignorance - do they?)

Cloaked - January 13, 2008 03:56 AM (GMT)
I love when people flaunt ignorance because how are we supposed to easily identify and solve it, otherwise? I actually feel proud when I admit I don't know something.

Anyway, as you believed, they do not support our endeavors. Yes, some leaders do. No, nearly all leaders and people do not.

Chances are if we manage to screw our heads on straight and think about our situation and goals rationally and we figure out how to rally the rest of the world to at least wanting peace in Iraq we will gain American support as well, including my own.

Essyne - January 14, 2008 01:22 AM (GMT)
Any ideas on how to actually do that?

Cloaked - January 14, 2008 01:32 AM (GMT)
Stop with false reasoning. Stop with false projections. Stop with false reports. Get on our hands and knees, and start asking for help like we need it.

Essyne - January 14, 2008 01:48 AM (GMT)
It would definately be a humbling experience.

Cloaked - January 14, 2008 02:07 AM (GMT)
Which would prove our earnestness and sincerity. We haven't been experiencing our share of humbling experiences as it is.

Chaput - January 22, 2008 01:51 AM (GMT)
I like what Huckabee says about energy independence; by switching to domestic energy production we can stop funding Middle Eastern terrorists.

dimmick - January 22, 2008 05:40 AM (GMT)
An admirable goal, and one that I support, but I'm sure as hell not voting for someone who has such a record of raising taxes and increasing the size of our already bloated government.

Cloaked - January 22, 2008 09:46 PM (GMT)
I like a lot of the things politicians say. I hate the things they do.

Essyne - February 11, 2008 04:07 AM (GMT)
A little bit of "old news," but I'm throwing it in here because I'm really surprised that I didn't mention it to Cloaked before....

You said that America needs to "stop with false reasoning" etc, yet you choose Obama for you candidate? The man is extremely hypocritical. He spouts out all this B.S. about not playing the dirty politics game, but does anyone remember how Senator Obama even RECEIVED his seat in the Senate? By knocking all opposing candidates off the ballot so that he could run unopposed? The man uses dirty, Chicago-style politics, then turns around and says that he's all for equaling the playing field and not name-calling, etc. I realize that politics is NOT clean, however, I'd much rather support a candidate that hasn't already lied to the American public on a daily basis.


Essyne - February 11, 2008 04:08 AM (GMT)
Another general comment:

I've heard many remarks regarding McCain's age and whether/not it will affect his effeciveness as a president.

....opinions?

Cloaked - February 11, 2008 08:20 PM (GMT)
I never said he is flawless. What politician isn't a hypocrite? You cannot be successful on that level without lying. All politicians lie. This does not make it right, but it is reality. And every candidate in the current race lies to the American public consistently; it's the ultimate method for campaigning in politics.

One can dig up dirt on any of the politicians just as you have about Obama. All of them do despicable things, as do you and I. One action cannot always simply mean that it is unreasonable to support him over the other scum (politicians in general) that are running for president. They have all done things like this and lied like this and spew hypocritical BS whenever they get the chance. It's a given. Such is the way of politics, and boy does it suck.

Regarding McCain: I don't see it influencing his capacities as a president significantly, but it will cause Americans to look at his VP with a bit more scrutiny when voting (IMO).




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