Everyone knows that the Tales games have their special moments and twists that make the games awesome. My question is; What moments and plot twists were your favorites, and which plot twists did you see coming from a mile away.

Favorite Moment: Hmm, mostly all the "Destiny" fights (i.e. [spoiler=Spoiler]Luke vs. Asch, Lloyd vs. Kratos, Dimlois vs. Stahn, Any fight versus Barbatos), Lion's death scene, and Kratos/Zelos return scenes.[/spoiler]

Unexpected Plot Twists: [spoiler=Spoiler]I can say that Rutee and Lion being siblings[/spoiler] caught me completely off guard, there are other moments that surprised me as well. (I'll remember them later)

Completely Obvious: [spoiler=Spoiler]Judas's true identity (come on, any idiot that played Destiny could easily figure it out) and Kratos being Lloyd's father.[/spoiler]

Nuklear Edit: Let's keep the spoilers white right now.
Nuklear Edit Again: Spoiler Tagged.

Am I the only one who didn't see that Kratos was Lloyd's dad? Sure, he had an unfamiliar interest in him, but to me, that didn't give it away. I thought that Kratos felt bonded to Lloyd because they were both swordsman, and that Kratos somehow knew about Lloyd. But dang, THAT kind of connection? I never suspected that.

I like most of the betrayal plot twists. I just wish they made it more dramatic and realistic. Like, "I'm betraying you because it was like this the whole time", instead of "I'm betraying you so I can help you in the long-run" or being blackmailed. Because if it's blackmail...ANYONE can get blackmailed, the villains just never do it.

Eternias Plot Twists > All.

[spoiler=Spoiler]The events that happen when Llyod finds out Kratos is his dad.[/spoiler]

In response to Sunny: Don't worry, I was in the dark about it too, however, it was obvious[spoiler=Spoiler]That Genis and Raine are half-elves[/spoiler] I mean, there were various questions like [spoiler=Slight Spoiler]Genis asking Lloyd if he hated half-elves because desians murdered his mother.[/spoiler] Also [spoiler=Another lil' spoiler]A renegade said thatr Genis was one of his Kinsmen[/spoiler]

was there ever a tales plot twist that they didn't foreshadow to hell and back

like i predicted pretty much every plot twist in Symphonia aside from the stuff that was completely out of left field.

[spoiler=ToDR Spoilers]Leon's betrayal. =/ If you've never been spoiled before and played ToDR, you would expect Leon to be a hostage instead of a traitor.[/spoiler]

Ahh, thanks Nuklear...my bad.
I agree with you, Sunny. In the remake, I was actually wondering if they were about to change the plot and screw up TOD2...would have been pretty interesting, actually.

I guess some people didn't see some twists coming, but it's kind of my nature to pick at things and start making wild theories with my friends about plot...I usually win.

Tales of the abyss plot twists
[spoiler=TotA spoilers]Luke is replica, Synch is replica, Asch is real Luke, Van the person who taught you to fight betrays you and become final boss, Largo is Natalias real father[/spoiler]

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