Title: Is it bad?
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 02:46 AM (GMT)
Is it bad that I dont even want to try to stop cutting because I dont really think its harmful and I dont feel its something I need to stop?
Death_Cutie - March 11, 2007 03:11 AM (GMT)
Yes. Why don't you think it is harmful? It leaves you with scars for life, you could die.
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 03:44 AM (GMT)
Well scars arent exactly harmful. And you only die if you fuck up.
Death_Cutie - March 11, 2007 05:06 AM (GMT)
Accidents happen, one slip, too deep, wrong vein, one time.. Scars are harmful to your self-esteem and you have to always cover them.
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 05:54 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Death_Cutie @ Mar 10 2007, 09:06 PM) |
| Accidents happen, one slip, too deep, wrong vein, one time.. Scars are harmful to your self-esteem and you have to always cover them. |
Car accidents happen too but we still drive. I like my scars. They remind me of what has happened and of the mistakes ive made. I dont cover them unless I have too.
Death_Cutie - March 11, 2007 06:05 AM (GMT)
Car accidents do happen but we try to prevent them. We wear seat belts, have cars with air bags, take driving courses, learn how to stay safe etc. When you cut you are putting yourself at more risk then being in a car accident in my opinion.
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 06:45 AM (GMT)
Guess Im just fucked up then cuz I think cutting is one of the better ways to cope. Its better than drinking or drugs.
Killerstyle - March 11, 2007 06:49 AM (GMT)
You're not fucked up. You depend on cutting, its your escape, your way to heal or feel better. Its what you know. Of course your going to think that its better then other options but none of those options are better then the other. Alcohol, Drugs, Cutting = Bad ways to cope.
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 06:52 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Killerstyle @ Mar 10 2007, 10:49 PM) |
| You're not fucked up. You depend on cutting, its your escape, your way to heal or feel better. Its what you know. Of course your going to think that its better then other options but none of those options are better then the other. Alcohol, Drugs, Cutting = Bad ways to cope. |
But like I said I dont see how cutting is bad. I mean most people are either trying to stop or at least know that they should but I think cutting is fine.
Killerstyle - March 11, 2007 06:59 AM (GMT)
Why is it fine? You can also add to that list, people have STOPPED and feel 23u89247017480359-386% better.
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 07:03 AM (GMT)
Because in my opnion its not harmful.
Killerstyle - March 11, 2007 07:05 AM (GMT)
I know its your opinion I was just wondering why you thought that so I could try and see it from your side as well.
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 07:08 AM (GMT)
I dont know how to explain it really I guess I just dont see the harm in it. I mean i dont think its the greatest thing for you but neither is tv, fast food, video games, and loads of other things but you dont see tons of people trying to quit tv and you dont consider people who eat fast-food to be suicidal even though obesity is the 2nd leading cause of preventable deaths.
Sparkle - March 11, 2007 07:17 AM (GMT)
TBH, that's what I thought... it must have been a year and a haf ago now.
'Why are they trying to make me stop? It's not affecting
them. It helps
me cope. I'm not gonna die...'
However, now that I have stopped, I am so amazingly glad it is out of my life. My last urge was about December?
Let's go through the pros and cons.
I'll say the pros, you say the cons.
- Imagine being without scars, able to wear short sleeves without people staring at you.
- No messy sheets to clean up
- No craving to cut yourself, it won't rule your life any more, YOU will finally be in control
- Think about how upset this is making people you love. They don't want to see you hurt, every time they see you with a fresh cut it's tearing them up inside... they'll be thinking 'is it some thing I've done?' 'How come I can't help'... they may even start cutting themselves. Me cutting made some one else do it, which is what finally made me stop. Do you want a loved one to go through what you are going through?
- it will lift up your self esteem
- It won't be dangerous
- Less PHYSICAL pain!
Ok- thats all for now. You go through the pros of cutting yourself
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 07:30 AM (GMT)
- Like Ive said I dont mind scars, I kind of like them. They are reminders. I wear short sleeves all the time if people have a problem with it they can kiss my hiney
- i bandage my cuts right after I do it so it doesnt make a mess
- I can control my cutting. I like depending on it though I like knowing its there for me.
- They only person that cares about me is an online person and they dont know when I cut.
- My self-esteem was lower before i cut.
- Dangerous is good
- More physical pain means less emotional pain
Now here's some pros of cutting:- It relives stress
- Its like a friend thats always there to comfort you when no one else is.
- It gets rid of emotional pain
- It feels good.
- Its better than drugs or drinking
- Its inexpensive
- It keeps me from killing myself
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 07:35 AM (GMT)
Sorry for aruging with you guys so much. Please dont get sick of me.
Sparkle - March 11, 2007 07:48 AM (GMT)
- Like Ive said I dont mind scars, I kind of like them. They are reminders. I wear short sleeves all the time if people have a problem with it they can kiss my hiney Don't you feel like every one is staring? Like every one is thikning stuff about you? Doesn't it bother you?
- i bandage my cuts right after I do it so it doesnt make a mess
-> it makes a mess of the bandages.
- I can control my cutting. I like depending on it though I like knowing its there for me.
-> You are not in control! The cutting controls you, won't let you stop. You try not cutting for a week. It's hard right? THAT'S THE SELF-HARM CONTROLLING YOU. You need to get out of this web before it completley controls you!
- They only person that cares about me is an online person and they dont know when I cut.
->You must live with some one. A parent or a carer. They WIL Lcare about you. They might be frustrated, but it hurts them! It hurts me when I see a stranger with cuts on their arms!
- My self-esteem was lower before i cut.
->So you're more cnfident now you cut?
- Dangerous is good
-> there are people dying of cancer who would give any thing for your life.... doesn't it make you feel bad? Do you believe in God?
- More physical pain means less emotional pain
-> For you maybe... not for others. And can't you do some thing else like cycle really fast? That helps me feel less frustrated etc.
Now here's some pros of cutting:
- It relives stress
-> in the end you get more stressed because you're self harming!
- Its like a friend thats always there to comfort you when no one else is.
-> Friends that hurt you arenm't friends.
- It gets rid of emotional pain
-> It heightenes physical pain., emotional pain and emotional pain for others.
- It feels good.
-> No it doesn't
- Its better than drugs or drinking
-> It's not as good as other healthy things, like sports or drawing or writing.
- Its inexpensive
-> It's more expensive in bandages than a sport
- It keeps me from killing myself
-> So can seing a counceller.
I think you should speak to some one proffesional. x
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 08:14 AM (GMT)
- No.
- Thats what they're for.
- I cant stop for a week because I dont really want to
- My mom doesnt give a crap
- Yes because now I know i can handle anything and I have a friend.
- Im not ending my life by cutting. No i dont believe in God Im an atheist.
- I've tried other stuff but nothing is as good as cutting
- I dont think of it as harming just coping so I dont stress about it
- Everyone hurts you
- I dont even feel it anymore, it makes emotional pain bearable, no one cares if i cut.
- Does to me
- Thos things are fun but they dont help
- Sports dont do anything and i suck at them anyway.
- counselors are expensive.
Sparkle - March 11, 2007 08:16 AM (GMT)
Can't you see one on the NHS?
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 08:29 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sparkle @ Mar 11 2007, 12:16 AM) |
| Can't you see one on the NHS? |
What?
Sparkle - March 11, 2007 08:31 AM (GMT)
Oh- it might be different where you live.
In England we have the National Health Service, where you can get healthcare free as long as you pay taxes.
Isn't there a school counceller or some one you could see? I really think it would help,
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 08:40 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sparkle @ Mar 11 2007, 12:31 AM) |
Oh- it might be different where you live. In England we have the National Health Service, where you can get healthcare free as long as you pay taxes.
Isn't there a school counceller or some one you could see? I really think it would help, |
Oh I think they have that here too but I dont know what its called. You cant get counciling from that?
If I talked to a school counselor Id end up in a foster home.
But anyway I dont need counciling.
Sparkle - March 11, 2007 08:44 AM (GMT)
Oh, we can here. Sorry for that confusion.
Why?
And you're obviously concerned, as you posted here. Why don't you want to?
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 08:48 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sparkle @ Mar 11 2007, 12:44 AM) |
Oh, we can here. Sorry for that confusion.
Why?
And you're obviously concerned, as you posted here. Why don't you want to? |
Oops I meant can not cant. I was asking if you can get councling from that. sorry its almost 1 am my typing isnt the greatest..
My mom doesnt take the greatest care of me.
Well you got me there I guess I am a little concerned but not enough to need counciling.
Sparkle - March 11, 2007 08:52 AM (GMT)
I don't know... it's probably different where you are but in England you can.
You don't need councelling... but maybe it would help? I mean you could just go there for one session and see if it helps?
Teen Vibe - March 11, 2007 07:11 PM (GMT)
Where do you live? Canada / USA / Austrailia etc?
I don't but I'm sensing part of the reason you are cutting is because of your mom. Maybe your hoping it will make her pay attention to you or care about you? I'm not saying that is the reason it just seems like it.
Yes, We are just a bunch of online people you probably will never meet but lots of us have either been a SHr, is a SHr or knows someone who is. We Care, I care. If we didn't care we wouldn't be here on this forum posting. So even if you don't see us. There is Definitely people who do care.
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 08:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Teen Vibe @ Mar 11 2007, 11:11 AM) |
Where do you live? Canada / USA / Austrailia etc?
I don't but I'm sensing part of the reason you are cutting is because of your mom. Maybe your hoping it will make her pay attention to you or care about you? I'm not saying that is the reason it just seems like it.
Yes, We are just a bunch of online people you probably will never meet but lots of us have either been a SHr, is a SHr or knows someone who is. We Care, I care. If we didn't care we wouldn't be here on this forum posting. So even if you don't see us. There is Definitely people who do care. |
I live in the US
I dont cut because of my mom.
You guys shouldnt care about me. I dont deserve it.
Teen Vibe - March 11, 2007 09:05 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (xbrokenxdreams @ Mar 11 2007, 08:15 PM) |
I live in the US
I dont cut because of my mom.
You guys shouldnt care about me. I dont deserve it.
|
You are human. Why would you not deserve to be cared about?
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 09:23 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Teen Vibe @ Mar 11 2007, 01:05 PM) |
You are human. Why would you not deserve to be cared about? |
I dont know. I just dont feel like Im good enough to be cared about.
Marzon - March 11, 2007 09:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (xbrokenxdreams @ Mar 11 2007, 04:23 PM) |
| QUOTE (Teen Vibe @ Mar 11 2007, 01:05 PM) | You are human. Why would you not deserve to be cared about? |
I dont know. I just dont feel like Im good enough to be cared about.
|
Yes you are, that's why you have friends that like you.
xbrokenxdreams - March 11, 2007 11:04 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Marzon @ Mar 11 2007, 01:32 PM) |
| QUOTE (xbrokenxdreams @ Mar 11 2007, 04:23 PM) |
I dont know. I just dont feel like Im good enough to be cared about. |
Yes you are, that's why you have friends that like you.
|
I dont really have friends.
Marzon - March 12, 2007 12:36 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (xbrokenxdreams @ Mar 11 2007, 06:04 PM) |
| QUOTE (Marzon @ Mar 11 2007, 01:32 PM) | | QUOTE (xbrokenxdreams @ Mar 11 2007, 04:23 PM) |
I dont know. I just dont feel like Im good enough to be cared about. |
Yes you are, that's why you have friends that like you.
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I dont really have friends.
|
That's why I'm here, I'll gladly be your friend.
xbrokenxdreams - March 12, 2007 12:43 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Marzon @ Mar 11 2007, 04:36 PM) |
| That's why I'm here, I'll gladly be your friend. |
Thanks.
Marzon - March 12, 2007 12:48 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (xbrokenxdreams @ Mar 11 2007, 07:43 PM) |
| QUOTE (Marzon @ Mar 11 2007, 04:36 PM) | | That's why I'm here, I'll gladly be your friend. |
Thanks.
|
If I can be your friend, you can have friends in no time. But right now I'm busy, I'll see you later new friend.
xbrokenxdreams - March 12, 2007 01:30 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Marzon @ Mar 11 2007, 04:48 PM) |
If I can be your friend, you can have friends in no time. But right now I'm busy, I'll see you later new friend. |
okay.
Killerstyle - March 12, 2007 02:39 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (xbrokenxdreams @ Mar 11 2007, 01:08 AM) |
| I dont know how to explain it really I guess I just dont see the harm in it. I mean i dont think its the greatest thing for you but neither is tv, fast food, video games, and loads of other things but you dont see tons of people trying to quit tv and you dont consider people who eat fast-food to be suicidal even though obesity is the 2nd leading cause of preventable deaths. |
Thats the thing, the are all bad for you. Yes obesity causes death and yes some people look it at them as being suicidal and people try to stop and help them because they can and will die from it just like someone who cuts. Its self-harm. Sure TV is bad for you and playing games, but only when you overdo it and when you do, someone is there to step up and tell you its not okay. Its not okay for you to cut. Its not okay to over-eat, or eat yourself to death, its not okay to watch 10 hours of TV or play 10 hours of video games. Its just not. It harms you, they all do. There is no difference from one to the other. Its not healthy. Its not good for you. They harm you just like cutting harms you. There are many other options other then cutting, getting fat or waisting your life to a video game or TV.
xbrokenxdreams - March 12, 2007 05:16 AM (GMT)
Well I just dont see how its bad. I guess im just crazy.
Jemma - March 12, 2007 04:01 PM (GMT)
You're not crazy! We all get sad sometimes, I cut myself a few weeks ago but stopped because I realised it doesn't help me. I agree with the others here when they say it isn't doing you any good
Death_Cutie - March 12, 2007 04:01 PM (GMT)
Do you think over eating, watching too much TV and playing too many video games is bad?
xbrokenxdreams - March 12, 2007 06:46 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Death_Cutie @ Mar 12 2007, 08:01 AM) |
| Do you think over eating, watching too much TV and playing too many video games is bad? |
Over-eating yeah. The others not really bad but not neccisarly good just whatever.