Title: Poll: do you think there should be a Megaman X9
Description: and MegaMan Zero 5
Memor-X - October 11, 2007 03:33 AM (GMT)
personly i would want an X9 because of how X8 ended and how in ZX Advent, the Bio Metal that gets introduces is Bio Metal Model A (Axl) and all the bio metals i know of are from the Zero Series and Axl was no where near there, infact CAPCOM cut him how right after X8
as far as i know to, Lumine is still alive inside Axl and if she (don't ask, long story) doesn't show up in ZX Advent then she's bound to show up in the next ZX Game if CAPCOM releases it
blazedout - October 14, 2007 12:31 AM (GMT)
First of all Lumine is a male. Second, no one knows how in the world is there a model A but even if there is a x9, where will be sigma and it should inclue the elf wars cause i really dont know where the zero series actularry started at. it either at x6 or x8. who knows.
Buster - October 14, 2007 12:51 AM (GMT)
Umm....the Zero series started aout 100 years after the X series...that was kinda the point of X not being alive anymore.
blazedout - October 14, 2007 03:01 AM (GMT)
yeah but in x6 in zero ending he was sealed up. in x8 there like a whole different thing there. the x series doesnt really tell which game has the real ending.
Blaze Dragon - October 14, 2007 01:45 PM (GMT)
No, please no. After the last X games, I don't want them to continue, period.
If the quality was like EXE 6, then yes. If it was like the newer X games, hell no.
XxXGrezarXxX - October 14, 2007 01:47 PM (GMT)
I think X10 is where they stop(Maybe axl died in X9 and left X and zero to fight Omega in X10)
Nemomon - October 14, 2007 01:57 PM (GMT)
Apart of X series, better for me will be, when Zero series will be continued. True, Zero was dead in MMZ 4, but when you watch ending, you may have hope for resurrection him. And he still may has new enemy apart of Dr. Weil.
XxXGrezarXxX - October 14, 2007 01:59 PM (GMT)
Huh???Thought Zero turned Biometal instead of dying in MZ4??
Subaru Stelar - October 14, 2007 01:59 PM (GMT)
But ZX is after Zero series right? because of the biometal and Model W
Nemomon - October 14, 2007 02:11 PM (GMT)
ZX may be some years later like EXE and RnR series. Zero died because of destroy Ragnarok ship.
XxXGrezarXxX - October 14, 2007 02:13 PM (GMT)
Nah, theory says that Zero survive but couldn't make it in his human form thus transforming to Biometal
Nemomon - October 14, 2007 02:15 PM (GMT)
Which theory? I don't know that.
XxXGrezarXxX - October 14, 2007 02:16 PM (GMT)
i mean most fan Thoery :p
Nemomon - October 14, 2007 02:17 PM (GMT)
Subaru Stelar - October 14, 2007 02:18 PM (GMT)
correction Zero is a reploid
XxXGrezarXxX - October 14, 2007 02:19 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Subaru Stelar @ Oct 14 2007, 10:18 PM) |
| correction Zero is a reploid |
Reploids could be any form Subaru....
Nemomon - October 14, 2007 02:20 PM (GMT)
He always was a reploid. In X (even created by Willy) series too.
XxXGrezarXxX - October 14, 2007 02:22 PM (GMT)
Everyone know that, you expect Zero to be a gamemaster in Megaman classic??
Nemomon - October 14, 2007 02:25 PM (GMT)
No. X is a copy of RockMan, Zero is a copy of Blues. In classic series there is no any Zero character.
Thread's title have new part: 'and MegaMan Zero 5'
XxXGrezarXxX - October 14, 2007 02:26 PM (GMT)
Yeah but again DR WILLY(THE ONE WHO CREATE THE GAMEMASTER)
created Zero, only with hearts and mind installwed in Zero
GTG,See ya around tomorrow
Buster - October 14, 2007 03:08 PM (GMT)
Here's what happened. Ciel was hoping that Zero would come back, and then we see a picture of Zero, destroyed. Thats it. Zero was killed. That was the point of the ending. ZX series just tries to capitalize on the Zero series by saying he didnt die, but still, its a separate storyline.
Nemomon - October 14, 2007 03:14 PM (GMT)
That's true. But Zero (in X series) was many times destroyed and he back to life (mostly because of X but still). Ciel may find some parts of him or some from Original Zero and resurrect him.
Buster - October 14, 2007 04:03 PM (GMT)
Zero was a maverick. Megaman Zero is a reploid. Reploid dont come back. Mavericks are robots, made to be robots. Reploids are robots made to simulate humans, but are made for war. If you recall, the only way to ressurect a reploid is with the dark elf, who was destroyed iirc.
blazedout - October 14, 2007 04:27 PM (GMT)
In the ending of mmz4, there a shadow of him and his sword. his sword is viewable but his body is very hard to see.
@ buster : Zero was never a reploid... He is the exact same as X. there both robots. And Zero was only a maverick before he met Sigma. He became a Maverick Hunter after that battle with sigma (watch cutscene at x4 to understand it more).
Memor-X - October 19, 2007 08:26 AM (GMT)
sorry about the late and long reply, i've been cut from the net but i'm back
Zero being a Maverick?, for me, a Maverick is defined as a Reploid who has broken the rules of Robotics, mainly harming humans, Zero was found and Sigma encountered him so thus there was no time for Zero to become a Maverick, however, as the main theory to how Dr Wily created Zero, he was a copy of X as only Dr Light had the knowlage to build a true Reploid (X) and since Dr Wily didn't know exsactly how to create one he somehow copied the plans of X and created Zero,m this was ofcause before Megaman 7 as Bass was a bi-produect of Zero's creation (explained in Power Fighter when Dr Wily says that Bass was an accident), so really Zero wasn't ever a Maverick, now some argue that Zero became a Maverick during the Zero series yet Killing Dr Weil doesn't make him a Maverick, Weil was far beyond a human as no human can regenerate and here was machine elements to him so Weil was bluffing (plus what human can fuse with a core of a space station)
@blazedout: i think of Lumine as a girl since no guy could ever be that evil, look what happened to Sigma and Dr Wily
@Nemomon: no, ZX is deffently after Zero and not EXE or RnR as you can see in ZX in area M and N that it's where Ragnarok crashed as you see it's wires and the memory system in Area N is that of where Zero woke up and fought his battle againt Omega for the final time in Zero 3
@XxXGrezarXxX: you got a point, but in the end of X8 you see Lumine's eyes in Axl's so either Axl goes Maverick and gets destroyed and provoking the Elf Wars in which Weil continues on with Omega for a X10, they sould also reveal in a new X game wheather Dr Wily is still alive or is dead and it's just Zero's memories of the past that makes him think of Dr Wily (Sigma should also reveal that he was also created by Dr Wily to a certina exstent thanks to the Sigma Virus)
@XxXGrezarXxX again: it says in ZX that the Bio Metals was create from the hero's of the past (rules of Equivialnecy forcing the creation of Bio Metal W to make balance) so there was the X-Guardians, X and Zero, all great hero who at one time, protected humanity from destruction, but then again, how the hell could you class Phantom as a hero, he commited sucide to destroy Zero and even if you take the blast full on in Zero 1, provided you Charge Z-Saber attack him and be able to kick his put without getting hurt, you won't go down in the blast, you loose a tiny lot of health
also, whoever put in the Zero 5 thing must have read my mind while i was gone as CAPCOM shoudl tell us how Ceil knows about Axl as you can clearly tell from ZX that Ceil created the Bio Metals and that she must have created Model A, but X or Zero never mention Axl ever! so how does she know about him
in my Megaman Battle Guardian Series in at the start of Arcadia Chronicals whihc take place in the aftermath of Zero 4, i explain how Zero did die yet the love of one Reploid brought him back to life, no not Ceil, a Reploid he killed with his own hands in X4, Iris, i explain that Iris is Mother Elf (whihc goes into my theory of Mother Elf's Identity) and that to prevent Weil and Omega getting Zero's true body, Iris and X removed Zero's soul from his real body, but into another body, that's when Weil curse Iris making her into the Dark Elf and forced her to find Zero's real body, only to be lead to Zero in his copy in which Omega took, Zero was place in another copy and his real body guarded by 2 Elite Reploid.
now after Iris reveals to Zero the truth to Omega and some of the Elf Wars (the other truth is that X and Zero created 5 seals in which Mavericks was sealed up along with the current strain of the Maverick Virus at that time and an evil in which if released, a new war against man and machine would begin) Iris wants Zero to rise up and open Neo Arcadia's eyes to the truth and Zero Replies "Neo Arcadia was destroyed, there i no one and nothing to protect anymore" and then Iris says that the Dome labled Neo Arcadia Dome No. 254 was only 1 of 301 domes created by X at the end of the Maverick Wars, and that one dome, even though very large, could not even hold all of humanity
now incase if you think i'm talking crap now about my series, there is some truth to what i just said, how on earth could Weil fire a missile into a Neo Arcadia residental district and not get in trouble by the masses, and why on earth would Neo Arcadia be so hard to get into when in Zero 2 on the train you can see a city in the background and not plains, plus also, why the hell would humanity base itself in one place and leave the rest of the world to rot in disspare, but that's just me
like i said, sorry for the long post but if i didn't get the net cut, i woudl have replied for offten
XxXGrezarXxX - October 19, 2007 09:05 AM (GMT)
WOW, as expected from a guy who uncovered everything related to megaman 0_0
EDIT:BTW, just call me Grez
Nemomon - October 19, 2007 10:18 AM (GMT)
And me, Nemo. Anyway don't worry about long post.
blazedout - October 23, 2007 12:13 AM (GMT)
No actularry it was proven in the stragety guide that lumine is a male. just a very young one. as for the iris thing, 2 things.
1 where did you find this infomation about iris.
2 i find it very hard to belive a really powerful elf which is the mother/dark elf to be iris.
Memor-X - October 26, 2007 02:17 AM (GMT)
i kinda peiced it together, the Baby Elves talked about how Zero beat up their mother 100 years ago, and the Dark Elf can't fight, only make others super powerful, also she knows Zero, ofcause you would think this would add up to the Elf Wars however here's 2 things that you can connect Mother Elf to being Iris
1) Iris cared for Zero and in the end of Zero 3 Mother Elf brings Zero back to the Resistence Base, also she becomes confused who to help, a Zero's Real Body or a body which claims to hace Zero's Soul, reason why you get that chance to kill Omega (i think, but it could also have been the X-Guardian's attacks)
2) in X4, as what i was told, Iris and Colonel was created to be one suprime Reploid however due to a big risk of that Reploid becoming a Maverick the Reploid was split into 2, the strong side, Colonel, and the kind side, Iris, however you would think that without Iris Colonel could be the suprime Reploid however what i read around the net was that the Iris in BN6 is the same and Iris in X4 to the extent of her power, the power to control other machines and that was what made the suprime reploid, a combined power of pure strength and control over others, when Mother Elf (at this time Dark Elf) was absobred into Omega, Weil could control ever Reploid on the planet though Omega so Mother Elf's power was also to control others, this is where some crap about the virus that is Omega that took Zero's body is really what remains of Colonel but really, Colonel's only cause in life was to protect his sister
also, Iris's full power is still underestimated evern today, as some belive that CAPCOM ruined Iris by making her weak but then again Iris's true power was in her heart
also i continue to think Lumine is a girl, too late to chnage it for me since in my series, the Lunar Shadow who are all Lumine's children refert to her as "Mother" and X and Axl refer her to the "Dark Princess of the Moon", that and also i made these real good sprites of Lumine when she returns in Arcadian Chronicals
Twilight.exe - October 6, 2008 01:29 AM (GMT)
Lumine a girl, I can see that actually. I want to comment on an earlier post, something about all the different series not being connected somewhat. Aside from the obvious ones, X6 to Zero, to ZX, and EXE to StarForce, all the series are in fact connected at one point, well except maybe legends, don't have the full story there. It's with Dr. Wily and Dr. Light/Hikari. Those 2 were partners originally, and the 2 each had a project that needed funding to revolutionize the world. In one universe, Wily got the funding, thus causing the classic series, X, Zero, and ZX series. In the other, Light/Hikari got the funding, thus causing EXE and StarForce series. That's how they are connected.
Going with the topic, I'd like to see an X9, Axl goes Maverick at somepoint, maybe saved, moves onto X10 and elf wars, yada, yada, yada.
Look at date of last post, then look at TREZ Rules, oaky?