Ti pisteuete yperisxuei? i Technognwsia ston ixo, ta programata ktl H h fantasia kai i empneusi gia na grapseis ena kalo track? den thelw "romantikes" apantiseis.. apla antikimenikotita.. safws kai o syndiasmos einai to oti kalutero. alla as ta paroume xwrista..

file cyberia me kathe sevasmo dn iparxei adikimenikotita. gia na mhn sou anaptixw thn theoria mou pos dn iparxei adikimenikotita se tpt. anyway idika se themata texnis kai esthitikis dn iparxei adikimenikotita.
gia emena iperisxiei i ebneysi. pisteyw pos to kalytero prog na exeis. ola ta vst tou tiesto to pio ipersigrono studio einai thema ebneysis to ti komati tha grapseis kathos KATEME i mousikh einai sinesthimata oxi IXOI

afth einai pada i apopsi mou opos eipa ayta einai ipokimenika

gia mena rolo paizoun oi melodies..den arkei na gemizeis ena kommati me effects xrhsimopoiwntas ena swro programmata.. gia mena ftanei na me sygkinoun oi melodies

antikeimenikothta den yparxei sth mousikh

xerome pou simfonoume alla na katalavw kati milame gia opiodipote idos mousikhs? giati edaxi an egw pezw bouzouki kai grapsw ena xasapiko mou kanei production kai paragogos se studio dn einai anagi na exw egw anagi san mousikos texnognosia. malon milame gia idi pou o composer einai kai producer etsi? i milame kathara mono gia uplifting?

+mfonw apolita me vertigo
afto me to mbouzouki nomizw isxih kai gia ta drums den eimai omos sigouri gia ta drums an xereis pes mou ;)

nai enoite. egw imoun se rock banda epeza basso kai ekana productions. o main composer htan o drummer egrafe oles tis melodies sta drums tou erxotan i ebneysi u know alla o anthropos oute piano ixere oute kithara e tou ta egrafan i alloi. gia ayto zitisa aposafinisi. malon gia uplifting milouse o cyberia

nai malon

yparxoun polloi syn8etes gnwstoi(pera ap thn uplifting) pou oute kan gnwrizoun tis notes. apla grafoun empeirika kai me fantasia

opws kai dipote prepei na yparxoun kai ta 2.alla se ena mousiko eidos opws einai i psychedelic, kai ena tmima tis i uplifting,pisteyw ebnefsi-fadasia.

den pa na eisai o gamiodas apo gnwseis,ama den exeis ebnefsi....

ELEOS. safws kai den yparxei antikoimenikotita se kati toso lepto oso i mousiki. ennoousa antikoimenikotita apopsewn. kai nai eimaste se uplifting trance forum. milaw kathara gi auto to eidos. oxi oti diaferei apo alla ilektronikaeidi mousikis oson afora ton tropo paragwgis. eleos an xreiazete na eksigw tin kathe leksi.

ps allo ena pou eida twra... grafei melwdies sta drums? :huh: :huh: :huh:
pws to kanei auto? anti gia mpagetes xrisimopoiei moluvia o typos? kai grafei stin epifaneia tis grand kasa???? :D :P

den exeis kanei drummer cyberia kai den ksereis <_<

egw grafo pano se toubeleki. kitaxe na deis. pianeis ton rithmo pano sta drums kai apo ekei silamvaneis tis melodies. sixna sthn hip-hop mousikh pianeis ena rithmo kai apo ekei ton ebloutizeis kai ftiaxneis track. oso gia thn adikimenikotita prepei na ise safis kai dn isoun gia ayto zitisa epexigisi me thn diki sou logikh kai ayto pou eipa gia ta drums dn xriazete epexigisi

ps. kai fisika i uplifting diaferei ston tropo paragogis ti koulamara htan afth? idia methodo paragogis xrisimopieis gia psy trance kai idia gia vocal house? :huh:

ps2. ta oria ths gnosis mas periorizode sta oria ths ebirias mas elege mia fora kai ena kairo o kant. isos cyberia an sou tixei ayto pou lew me ta drums an to vioseis na mhn sou fanei toso strange.

nai kai o ainstain eipe..: hey...sit happens...

lol re eleos. tespa den kserw gia to thema tou drummer. apla mou kanei koulo. psychz exeis kanei drumer?
legontas tropo paragwgis ennow oti exeis ena pc ena synth (hardware) monitors kai ta sxetika.

oxi alla eimai toubanos apo monos mou :lol:

oxi entaksei plaka kanw, exw filo drummer, apo kei to kserw

gia mena ta pososta einai 60 texnologia 40 empneusi...Polla track sinithos ta xekinas paizontas loopes apo synths....Spania na xekiniseis kati apo sample epipedo....Ta samples kai i empneusi erxontai deutera an vreis merikous gematous ixous px..apo albino i massive i zeta kai ta valeis me mpotes kai ta sinafi na sou ftiaxnoun tis paternes....

Tespa o kathenas oti nomizei..

60% texnologia 40% empneusi...

cyberia ayta pou les dn einai tropos paragogis einai mesa paragogis
;)

hm:/ einai kapos etsi.

ksekinas mia mera enas 16 xronos kaylomenos pou thelei na grapsei.

i texnognosia sou einai mideniki.i fantasia sou orgiazei giati eisai sta melia, alla epeidi den iparxei gnosi den kataferneis na tin apotyposeis sxedon katholou opos tha theles.

oso pernane ta xronia oi texnikes sou enisxyontai k i empneyseis sou apeleytherontai pio eykola.

en telei to ena fernei to allo.
oso kala k na zografiseis, ama de matheis kapoies stadar texnikes den prokeitai pote na gineis kalos zografos.

oi texnikes pou iparxoun se oles tis texnes, apeleytheronoun to talento.

simfwnw me spectrum...

Egw pisteyw to e3hs.
H texnognwsia 8a einai panta ekei.Einai sto xeri tou ka8enos na thn ma8ei kai na thn xrhsimopoihsei analogws.H empneush kai h fantasia einai ayta pou 8a sou dwsoun tis idees pou 8a prepei na "ulopoihseis",xwris omws ayto na shmenei pws 8a einai panta kales.Sth mousikh kai se opoiadhpote texnh auto pou xreiazetai kapoios gia na 3exorhsei pragmatika einai to talento.Kai ayto h to exeis h den to exeis.

Kai xwris na shmainei oti akoma ki an exeis kales idees, tha kaneis thn teleia ylopoihsh.

ela mwre posh sofia thelei na doulepseis madtracker h fruity? gia uplifting milame...
pistevw oti oi idees metrane kai ta alla einai apla psila grammata. otan akouw ena kommati prwta tha koitaksw tis melwdies, ama spernoun teleiwse. twra to ligo basso apo dw kai to poly reverb apo kei den tha afhsw na mou th xalasoun san kati allous <_<

lipame egw diafono me spectrum. epidi ta sxolia pou ginode einai ligo pio genika tha topothetithw pio genika. an exeis kayles dn xriazete texnognosia gia na tis ekfraseis iparxoun kai mousika organa. episis opios exei diladi kayles kai xerei na xirizete telia progs ginete tiesto? kai kati telefteo egw prosopika dn ipirxa pote anthropos genikotera pou ipakouei se kanones. protimo na ftiaxnw dikous mou. oi megaliteroi dimiourgoi mousikhs sto opiodipote idos kerdisan me to diaforetiko oxi me to kathieromeno. that's my point of view


spectrum mhn ta les ola toso apolyta giati iparxoun poles apopsis sthn texni kai kodaroxtipioude agria. exoun topothetithei oloi oi gnostoi mas filosophi kai o kathenas apo thn pleyra tou exei poly sosta epixirimata toso isxira opou dn boreis na katalixeis eykola kapou egw epi paradigmati tasome me thn apopsi oti kalitexnis geniese. alloi pisteyoun pos kalitexnis ginese dn boroume na apodixoume tpt apo ta 2 opote as mhn ta pernoume os dedomena ;)

den prokeitai mono gia prosopiki apopsi vertigo.
exo diavasei olokliro dokimio tou rafailidi "stoixeiodis aisthitiki" k opos katalavaineis de ta bgazo apo to myalo mou, oso k na eksigountai eykola me tin koini logiki.

k poios sou eipe oti o tiesto einai Kallitexnis?
opoios bgazei ena ixitiko apotelesma A, oso k na sou aresei esena, iparxoun kanones aisthitikis gia oles tis texnes edo k aiwnes...k eytyxws tha synexisoun na iparxoun gia aytous pou tous katalavainoun.

otan leo gia texnikes den ennoo oti tha erthei kapoios k tha sou pei "tha grapseis etsi ti melodia" i' "tha grapseis ayto to style".

parto perisotero san kapoia tricks pou tha sou lisoun ta xeria k tha se voithisoun na apotyposeis pio eykola ayto pou thes.den einai ligo pragma ayto.i "sintirisi dynamewn" einai poli megalo zitima, oxi mono stin texni alla k sti leitourgia tou anthropinou organismou genika.

tous kanones opos to ennoeis esy, ennoeitai oti tous ftiaxneis monos sou, alloste ayti einai i xara tou dimiourgou.alla akoma k aytoi oi kanones ypakoune stous aisthitikous kanones tis texnis, akoma k an den to katalavaineis.

mathimatika einai, apla esy mporeis na oriseis poso dyskoli tha einai i "synartisi".den mporeis na allakseis tin idia ti synartisi.

oso gia to talento, kaneis de genietai talento, efoson den to apodeiksei.
(AYTO MONO EINAI PROSOPIKI MOU APOPSI)
gia mena metrane pio poly alles lekseis opos "myalo" k "proponisi".
k o nown noeitw...

lypamai vertigo an nomizeis pos paparologw.
mpes sto pneyma kathe post mou prin diafoniseis.

dn nomizw oti paparologeis. agorina mou esy diavaze ta posts mou. alimono xereis poso se sevome. apla diafono. dexome tis apopsis sou. dn lew pos einai gia ton poutso mono pou sou exigisa pos iparxoun dokimia pou ipostirizoun alla.
ayto pou lew einai oti dn prepei na eisai toso apolitos kathos ta themata texnis einai poly diskola. exei diatiposi apopsi kai o platonas kai o aristos kai oi 2 exoun kala epixirimata k etsi dn boreis na ise apolitos me pianeis? kai egw boro na sou diatiposo apopsi telios aditheti apo th diki sou kai me pola epixirimata malista alla dn tha miliso toso apolita giati sthn texni einai toso poles oi apopsis kai oles toso kala diatipomenes pou dn boreis na eisai toso klistomialos oste na dexese mono MIA APOPSI. anyways as mhn to metatrepsoume to topic se filosofikes topothetisis peri texnis. as to kratisoume uplifting.

spec vs vertigo....

psss.s.s.ssssssss......

Re entaxei o kathe mastoras exei to tropo tou...ti sizitatai tora.....

Peace....

dn malono me spec. vasika ayto pou les spec vs ver einai astio an skefteis oti exw anaferthei sto forum kai os GLIFTIS tou spec. :P

i mousiki einai texni kai den xwraei ideologies oso kai an kapioi prospa8oune na tin valoun...
i fadasia einai i texni kai i texnognwsia to yliko.
kai ta dyo xreiazontai an einai na kaneis kati swsto.
opws den mporeis na zwgrafiseis xwris xrwmata kai pinela etsi den mporeis na grapseis mousiki an den ksereis kapoio software i kapoio organo.

nai ok afto pou les me kaliptei. well said

kala sigoura i mousiki apo moni tis siga min petaei k molotov.

k ideologika na to pame omos panta syndeontan oi mousikes me ideologies.

alla emeis den eipame ayto.

oute se pinela k mpogies anaferthikame.

ayta ipotithetai oti einai ta standard.

ayto pou ithela na po sto paradeigma me to zografo einai allo.
ama den pas se mia kalwn texnwn na sou deiksoun kapoies texnikes i' kapws allios na antliseis kapoies apo aytes, dyskola tha ksefygeis apo to stadio tou primitive.

pos na to po allios.
einai san na grafeis mia zoi sto madtracker xoris na ksereis oute to copy-paste.

nai edo einai pou diafono giati megaloi kalitexnes itan aytodidaktoi kai dimiourgisan epipleon "sxoles" me tis texnikes pou dimiourgisan

kanoniste na tsakothite pali... :hah: :hah:

dn tsakonome me spectrum einai superproducer kai sevome tis apopsis tou
:ooo:

paides xexasate oloi kati shmantiko,to mousiko ayti

giati entaxei h tehnologia h fantasia kai ta loipa alla

an den exeis mousiko ayti den mporeis na ta syndiaseis....

dikio den exw???

nai nai oposdipote xriazete na pianeis kai notes apo to diapason gia na grapseis mia xazo melodia gia uplifting. episis xriazete kai 10 xronia mathimata klasikou kai vizadinou piano akoma apetei 4 xronia mousikhs paragoghs sto New York University. I misoi dn xerete na grafete thelete na exete kai apopsi?
sorry allaaaa...GTP