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BebeDeBroadway - October 22, 2007 02:42 AM (GMT)
So I was looking for names and such for Belle.....

I came up with two:
Dupont - lives by the bridge
and Boutin - lives on the outskirts of the town

Which do you like best?

Trudi brought up the excellent point that Boutin sounds plain and down to earth which fits Belle.

Just thought I'd post and get your responses. What last names have you thought of or read that you liked? Let's get this discussion brewin'! lol

Meg - October 22, 2007 02:58 AM (GMT)
Well, I can't really figure out how to SAY Boutin. LOL But if it's how I THINK, I agree.

BebeDeBroadway - October 22, 2007 03:32 AM (GMT)
I was guessing like "BOOtuh" Which... typed doesn't look like how i'm saying it. lol


BOO ton but in that crazy french way..... lol I fail

Klaske - October 22, 2007 05:41 AM (GMT)
I'm never in favor for alliteration... so if these are the choices, I'd go for Dupont.

In one of my stories her lastname is 'de la Vallière', after Louise de la Vallière. (her middle name is also Louise in my story ;) )

Sophie-Holly - October 22, 2007 06:17 AM (GMT)
Tower.

Belle Tower

Bell Tower


hahah. I just kill myself :P


Jokes aside, I like Boutin. Seems nice and Belle-like to me.

Stabby - October 22, 2007 06:33 AM (GMT)
I vote for Dupont as well. I think the name flows better, Belle Dupont.

Nikki - October 22, 2007 07:11 AM (GMT)
I'd have to agree with Valerie. I like the sound of Dupont :) And at least it's something I can pronounce :P

Isabella - October 22, 2007 07:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Meg @ Oct 22 2007, 02:58 AM)
Well, I can't really figure out how to SAY Boutin. LOL But if it's how I THINK, I agree.

Boo-Tah, I think. Dupont would be doo-pon.

BebeDeBroadway - October 22, 2007 08:37 AM (GMT)
I'm not generally a fan for alliteration, but I think with this name it fit. Because of how slightly awkward it feels so say - or read - Belle Boutin, it adds to her kind of plain, no frills, down to earth quality. And plus, maybe Gaston can then think that by marrying belle he'd also be "saving" her from that awkward name. lol

And with these pronunciations.... if we could only type in International phoenetic alphabet... lol Although I don't know the symbol for that french "N" that I'm thinking for the end of Boutin..... lol

TrudiRose - October 22, 2007 11:08 AM (GMT)
I think "Boutin" would be pronounced "Boo-TAN" in French (or something close to that).

PinkGlassRose - October 22, 2007 11:12 AM (GMT)
Actually, it might be boo-TON, long O, silent N...

LumBabsFan - October 22, 2007 12:38 PM (GMT)
I think cause of the "i", it would be "tan" sounding

Meg - October 22, 2007 01:21 PM (GMT)
OMG. And we wonder why Megan gets so darn confused. LOL

Cogsworth109 - October 22, 2007 09:51 PM (GMT)
I hope it's not Boo-tah... um, I didn't know Belle was a Budist. ;)
Anyway, I like Boutin. For the reasons stated above.

HeartoftheTiger - October 23, 2007 06:29 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (BebeDeBroadway @ Oct 22 2007, 02:42 AM)
So I was looking for names and such for Belle.....

I came up with two:
Dupont - lives by the bridge
and Boutin - lives on the outskirts of the town

Which do you like best?

Trudi brought up the excellent point that Boutin sounds plain and down to earth which fits Belle.

Just thought I'd post and get your responses. What last names have you thought of or read that you liked? Let's get this discussion brewin'! lol

"Belle Boutin" sounds like a Plug-in fragrance. :lol:

Isabella - October 23, 2007 07:07 AM (GMT)
I'm pretty confident that the N would be silent, because the French tend not to pronounce the last letter.

Klaske - October 23, 2007 07:33 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (BebeDeBroadway @ Oct 22 2007, 04:42 AM)
Trudi brought up the excellent point that Boutin sounds plain and down to earth which fits Belle.


I was wondering about something... How down to earth is Belle? She is the girl who wanted 'adventure in the great wide somewhere' who likes to read and let the books take her away 'to far off places where there’s adventure and mystery and romance and…happy endings'.

Would a down to earth name fit her?

MlleMars - October 23, 2007 04:25 PM (GMT)
Actually Pink was right. Boutin would have the pronunciation BOO-ton, although the n would have more of an ng sound like in sing, only softer.
If I could, I'd post a sound file...
Both Dupont and Boutin work well with Belle's name. What would be interesting to do is look up the meanings of the names to see how they would work that way. Since Belle's name itself is a nod to her beauty...

TrudiRose - October 23, 2007 05:55 PM (GMT)
Whitney put the meanings in her first post on those names:

Dupont - lives by the bridge
Boutin - lives on the outskirts of the town

So they both fit Belle. :)


MlleMars - October 23, 2007 06:35 PM (GMT)
Aha. I missed those. :huh: Lol.
As far as meanings go, Boutin seems to work the best. Of course, that is simply my opinion. :)

BebeDeBroadway - October 24, 2007 12:31 AM (GMT)
Well a down to earth name would work for Belle in the fact that it fits the "Beauty but a funny girl." Belle isn't one to go off and showcase herself the way the silly girls do, so I would say she's very down to earth. She dreams and reads, but I think that grounds her more. She knows where she is, on the other hand, she knows where she'd like to go.

I think I'm liking Boutin more and more especially now that it's pronounced the way I thought it was. lol Despite my general dislike of name alliteration. lol

Nikki - October 24, 2007 07:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (BebeDeBroadway @ Oct 24 2007, 01:31 AM)
She knows where she is, on the other hand, she knows where she'd like to go.

She does? :unsure: I mean, she dreams of having a different life with adventure in the "great wide somewhere", but I don't think that necessarily means that she KNOWS what she wants. Her dreams are pretty abstract, and she seems to live them through her books.

I wouldn't COMPLETELY agree that Belle is "grounded". She's "air-headed", but in a different way compared to the Silly Girls.

As far as the meanings go, I thought we agreed that Belle hadn't lived in the village all her life :P So I don't think her last name should be based on the movie :)

Either way, between Boutin and Dupont, I still prefer Dupont :P

TrudiRose - October 24, 2007 11:34 AM (GMT)
OT, but that picture always totally cracks me up! Whitney's expression is pure gold.

Personally, when I originally said I thought the name Boutin fit her because it was "down to earth," I meant because it's not some glamorous, fancy, soap opera name, like a lot of French surnames sound like to me. It's just simple and unpretentious, and I liked that. Belle is very much "herself" -- she doesn't do up her hair or wear fancy clothes, just a plain dress, and she's not concerned with "appearances." So a plain-sounding name seemed appropriate for her, to me.

Cogsworth109 - October 25, 2007 12:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Nikki @ Oct 24 2007, 02:37 AM)
As far as the meanings go, I thought we agreed that Belle hadn't lived in the village all her life :P

True. In the song "Belle," she says, "Every morning just the same, since the morning that we came to this poor provincial town." Meaning that she CAME there at one point in her life...

Yeah, and I'd agree with the people that said she was sort of air-headed. The way she walks through the village, she doesn't really notice anything around her once she starts reading.

Stabby - October 25, 2007 04:09 AM (GMT)
More focused than air-headed, in my opinion. She knew what the town thought of her; she'd just rather read a book.

HeartoftheTiger - October 25, 2007 07:23 AM (GMT)
Maybe I'm being too metaphorical about this: But "Bridges" can also
translate as a "Crossroads" of sorts. It seems that everyone who encounters
Belle reaches a bridge/crossroad in their life here. The servents, Beast, et
al.

Or am I overthinking this? :-P

Klaske - October 25, 2007 08:30 AM (GMT)
Maybe a little :P Cause you can use the 'crossroads' metaphor for any character in every story ;-)

welshsoprano - November 15, 2007 02:29 AM (GMT)
Bou-TEN (make a nasal sound, kind of rhymes with "en"). I'm trilingual in English, Welsh, and French, and that's how I would say it.

Haili73 - March 8, 2013 07:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Cogsworth109 @ Oct 25 2007, 12:52 AM)
QUOTE (Nikki @ Oct 24 2007, 02:37 AM)
As far as the meanings go, I thought we agreed that Belle hadn't lived in the village all her life :P

True. In the song "Belle," she says, "Every morning just the same, since the morning that we came to this poor provincial town." Meaning that she CAME there at one point in her life...

And then Belle makes a cameo in "Out There" in Hunchback of Notre Dame- my personal canon is that Belle and her parents lived in Paris until her mother died. Belle and Maurice are both dreamers- with their heads stuck up in the cloud. When she died, Belle and Maurice didn't know how to manage the budget, because that was something Cecile (Belle's mom's name, for me, anyway. I used it for an RP once) always took care of. Gradually, they became so poor that they had to move to the "poor provincial town." This is a nod to the original fairy tale, where Belle's merchant father loses his fortunes at sea, all but one house out of the woods. Belle and her sisters (and sometimes brothers) have to move away from the rich city, and since they're French, one definite possibility of where they could've lived would be Notre Dame, which means "Our Lady" in French. This refers to The Blessed Mother, Mary. She could have a a last name such as "de Marie" (of Mary) or something like that.

But of the two choices, I like Dupont better. I think it sounds better with Belle's name. I dont' think Boutin is any more down-to-earth than Dupont

Nikki - March 8, 2013 09:18 PM (GMT)
Ahhh, Du Pont reminds me of... well... Du Pont! :D Kind of ironic when you think that one of the biggest companies in the world started with an enthusiastic inventor... Plus, the family originated in France but emigrated to the States in 1800!

TrudiRose - March 8, 2013 11:59 PM (GMT)
Wow! That's really appropriate!

Chloboshoka - May 30, 2013 12:39 PM (GMT)
I like Boutin the most out of the two but one thing that comes in mind for me is Marie Daaé




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